Sunday, September 21, 2008

What about Walid Shoebat?

Walid Shoebat testifies that he is a former Islamic Palestinian terrorist that found the error of his ways and found Christ Jesus as his Lord and Savior.

Shoebat writes frequently on anti-Islamist and anti-jihad websites and columns. He even has his own website to promote his message that Islam is evil and Islamic terrorists are racist murderers:

Shoebat has been travelling to universities and speaking engagements to deliver his message as a form of education about Islamist terrorism to a strikingly misled America.

Needless to say I have been a huge follower of Shoebat because of his message and his conversion to Christianity.

I have found out recently that some journalism at the
Jerusalem Post and by a pro-Arab journalist by the name of Eileen Fleming have uncovered some data that may indicate that Walid Shoebat has been lying about his past. The lying accusation extends to be a fraud in that allegedly Shoebat has been his dime from his false story of his past.

The Jerusalem Post story is measured giving the appearance of reporting facts which need explanation yet is not directly saying Shoebat is a hoaxster; however there is the leading implication.

Eileen Fleming however is just plain scathing based on interviews of the Shoebat’s Muslim family and Muslim acquaintances from his Muslim life as a Palestinian.

convincingly answers nearly every accusation on a Jerusalem Post Right of Reply section and on his own website.

Unfortunately Shoebat failed to give an explanation about donations given via his website.

Visitors to Shoebat's Internet site are encouraged to make a donation to his foundation to enable him to disseminate his message. However, a notice on the page states that for "security reasons," the money will not be debited to his foundation, but rather to a company called Top Executive Media. The name Top Executive Media is used by a greetings card firm from Pennsylvania called Top Executive Greetings, a company with an annual turnover of $500,000. When one makes a donation through the Shoebat Internet site, the Web address changes to

This seems to be the only active page for the company; its homepage is blank.

Asked by the Post whether the Walid Shoebat Foundation is a registered charity, Shoebat replied that it is registered in Pennsylvania.

The Pennsylvania State Attorney's office said it had no record of a charity registered under this name. (
Jerusalem Post)

I am telling you Shoebat effectively answered everything to the point an appearance of a smear campaign by Leftists, Muslims and pro-Arabs. Then this Jerusalem Post bit of information shows up. Without a clear explanation Shoebat looks shady and like a scammer.

Shoebat only answer is mystifying rather than a response of clarity.

Questioned further, Shoebat said it was registered under a different name, but that he was not aware of the details, which are handled by his manager.

"I remain separate to the running of the charity so that I am not constrained by church rules," he explained, adding that the organization's connection to certain churches meant it would be difficult for him to speak to secular audiences if he became too involved in running it.

This is a flimsy answer that makes Shoebat look like a moron for the key accusation is that money is being sent without accountability to a non-existent dummy organization.

I am telling you I still wanting to believe Shoebat being a good Islamophobe then I read
Debbie Schlussel.

Schlussel says she was suspicious of Walid Shoebat but sat on some information until she read the Jerusalem Post story. Schlussel goes on to write about an email exchange that began as a discussion with a commenter. Later via some simple investigation discovered the emails were coming from a Walid Shoebat email address. She confronted the writer and Shoebat (or someone claiming to be Shoebat) says you got me.

Schlussel’s gripe with Shoebat is that he plagiarized some writing of hers and implying Shoebat wrote the information. Schlussel asked for a mere accreditation of her work and she would be happy. According to the email exchange Shoebat originally sad he would give Schlussel credit. That never happened and the email exchange roughly ended with Shoebat using nasty verbiage and daring Schlussel to sue.

Schlussel copy and pasted the email exchange on her post about Shoebat.

You decide if Walid Shoebat was the person in the email exchange. Schlussel convincingly demonstrates that it is; however the reality is that Schlussel can only say Shoebat’s email was used. Thus if Shoebat denied he sent such an email, the only thing that can be proved is where the email originated but NOT who sent them. An educated guess could be made that Shoebat sent them; however an educated guess could also suggest that someone who knows Shoebat could have sent them as well. Without a verbal confession or video of sending email Schlussel cannot actually prove Shoebat sent those emails.

On the other hand if I was Schlussel I certainly would believe it was Shoebat. That is why I said, “You decide.”

Here is another thing. I am a Schlussel fan of her investigative blogging. Yet Schlussel has problems with other anti-Islamist writers other than just Shoebat.

In the post she talks about Shoebat it is entitled, “Enough, Walid Shoebat: Why is Sean Hannity's Fake Terrorist Harassing Me?” She spends a couple of sentences accusing Sean Hannity as a plagiarist. A couple of paragraphs down Schlussel devotes a couple of sentences to World Net Daily writer
Aaron Klein as a plagiarist. A few sentences after the email demonstration Schlussel attacks the credibility of Steven Emerson as a terrorist expert I suspect because he vouched for Shoebat. Indeed Muslims and Leftists hate Emerson because of his exposés. The fact remains though that Emerson predicted the affect of global Islamism before 9/11 transformed the way nations do business (e.g. airlines).

I am probably guilty of wanting to believe Walid Shoebat. I have to reiterate that I would have been completely on Shoebat’s side except for the weak answer on where donations go after they disappear to what appears to be a dummy company or charity.

So since I want to believe in Shoebat, I am taking a wait and see what else turns up that is positive or negative. If there is darkness in Shoebat the light will expose it. If there is a smear campaign the light will eventually expose that as well.


Anonymous said...

You can see Walid Shoebat Fund on the Secretary of State of Pennsylvania under non-profit corporations. It's been there for years.

Theway2k said...

I wish more people would step up to defend Shoebat as "anonymouse" has done. I am a Shoebat fan and so dearly want to believe his credibility is intact.

Anonymous said...

I want to believe his credibility as well but am confused to a recent assertion he made regarding the number 666 (In the name of Allah) as being in the Codex Vaticanus (Revelation 13:18). Upon investigation to determine the validity of his statement, I discovered that the Codex Vaticanus is missing the book of Revelation due to its antiquity. This is puzzling.

Theway2k said...

Excerpt from K1060Bambi said...:
Upon investigation to determine the validity of his statement, I discovered that the Codex Vaticanus is missing the book of Revelation due to its antiquity. This is puzzling.

I did a little digging as well Bambi. Indeed you are correct the Codex Vaticanus which many date around the 4th century is missing "Revelation" among other texts; However upon further examination I discovered there is a Codex Vaticanus 2066 which has a wide range of dating from the 8th century AD to 10th century AD. This depends on the scholar you read. This Codex Vaticanus has the the Revelation included in the manuscript. This assertion is backed up by the reputable The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge.

On the other hand I suspect Christian Numerology or Theology is not the strong suit of man who formerly was an Islamic thug. The strong suit of Sheobat's testimony relies on the Good News bring light to the darkness of an Islamic Palestinian terrorist.

That testimony is totally awesome!

Shoebat should stick to simplicity of what he was delivered from and enlighten people to the dangers and agendas of Political Islam.