John R. Houk
© April 22, 2009
By all accounts President John Fitzgerald Kennedy is one of America’s greatest Presidents, particularly in the twentieth century.
Yet there was intense speculation that JFK and his Administration was involved in the assassination of South Vietnamese dictator Ngo Dinh Diem. The coup preceding Diem’s assassination was indeed orchestrated by the JFK Administration with knowledge thereof from JFK himself.
President Lyndon Baines Johnson definitely believed the JFK Administration was part and parcel to the assassination.
President Richard Milhouse Nixon believed that JFK was directly (Note: annoying soundtrack is part of the website) involved in the ordering of the assassination of Diem. A New York Times story that included the transcripts of Nixon tapes paints of picture of Nixon trying to frame JFK; however after close examination of the NYT story you will note the message the NYT wants its readers to believe does not match Nixon’s strong belief of JFK culpability.
Among Academia during the Vietnam War era it was considered a truism that JFK ordered Diem’s assassination. Kennedy apologists have come to the Kennedy Legacy rescue claiming there is no direct proof that JFK was behind the Diem assassination. Since there is no smoking gun connection it comes down to what one surmises from any evidence available. Today the lack of evidence has pretty much exonerated JFK publicly of culpability; however that does not mean there was not a successful cover-up.
Records of the Kennedy national security meetings, both here and in our larger collection, show that none of JFK's conversations about a coup in Saigon featured consideration of what might physically happen to Ngo Dinh Diem or Ngo Dinh Nhu. The audio record of the October 29th meeting which we cite below also reveals no discussion of this issue. That meeting, the last held at the White House to consider a coup before this actually took place, would have been the key moment for such a conversation. The conclusion of the Church Committee agrees that Washington gave no consideration to killing Diem. (Note 12) The weight of evidence therefore supports the view that President Kennedy did not conspire in the death of Diem. However, there is also the exceedingly strange transcript of Diem's final phone conversation with Ambassador Lodge on the afternoon of the coup (Document 23), which carries the distinct impression that Diem is being abandoned by the U.S. Whether this represents Lodge's contribution, or JFK's wishes, is not apparent from the evidence available today.
A second charge has to do with Kennedy administration denials that it had had anything to do with the coup itself. The documentary record is replete with evidence that President Kennedy and his advisers, both individually and collectively, had a considerable role in the coup overall, by giving initial support to Saigon military officers uncertain what the U.S. response might be, by withdrawing U.S. aid from Diem himself, and by publicly pressuring the Saigon government in a way that made clear to South Vietnamese that Diem was isolated from his American ally. In addition, at several of his meetings (Documents 7, 19, 22) Kennedy had CIA briefings and led discussions based on the estimated balance between pro- and anti-coup forces in Saigon that leave no doubt the United States had a detailed interest in the outcome of a coup against Ngo Dinh Diem. The CIA also provided $42,000 in immediate support money to the plotters the morning of the coup, carried by Lucien Conein, an act prefigured in administration planning Document 17). (John Prados)
So why do I mention some dirt on an American hero as JFK?
The reason is President Barack Hussein Obama has decided to re-open the door on possible prosecution of Bush Administration Aides and functionaries (including Lawyers providing legal advice) concerning the Bush Administration tactic of using extreme interrogation methods to extract information out of Islamic terrorists to protect the American Homeland. Most people in this currently Leftist dominated nation use appellation of “torture” for extreme interrogation methods. This is odd for the Obama Administration has decided to abandon all actual words for Leftist euphemisms for phrases and words like Global War on Terrorism or Islamic terrorists.
I am not a proponent of the kind of torture that leads to the termination of life or to the maiming of one’s body. Torture thus defined is indeed a heinous crime or war crime if perpetrated by signatories of the Geneva Conventions.
I am a proponent of what is labeled as torture yet there is NO threat to life and limb. It is the use of psychological methods to extract relevant information not necessarily for prosecution but rather for the safety of American citizens and military operations against Islamic terrorists abroad. The Bush Administration has indeed proven such extracted information has kept American soil free from another 911 style attack on American lives.
Left Wing Time.com places Vice President Cheney’s assertion that extreme interrogation methods indeed prevented terrorist attacks as well as the capture of other terrorists. Time.com also pooh-poohs the former Vice President by saying the harm to the American image outweighs any success that can be claimed by extreme interrogation methods.
HUH? Does that make sense? The Lefties are saying the aspirations of terrorists were mere fantasy that would not take place. I guess 911 was one of those fantasies that a failure in Intel failed to prevent.
Now here’s the thing. President Barack Hussein Obama initially showed bi-partisan wisdom in sticking to his convictions (as wrong as they are) by saying there will be NO prosecutions or investigations into the circle of Bush Administration people in the loop for getting the extreme interrogations started and accomplished. BUT NOW BHO is saying well hold up there, my fellow Lefties are crying for Right Wing (viewed as extremist no doubt) blood or the blood of BHO if he fails to go after all the Bush Administration people from top to bottom involved in extreme interrogation techniques.
BHO might as well go back and investigate anyone still alive from previous Presidential Administrations that have the stench of criminal activities from President Clinton through President Eisenhower (I am fairly certain before Eisenhower that for sure Presidential Aides and advisors are dead).
My point is the Bush Administration did not break any prosecutable any more than previous Presidential Administrations. There are Presidents in this time period that Americans loved to loathe; however many of the Presidents are legends or were at least very popular among voters (after all Clinton beat an impeachment rap). If BHO goes on a partisan political vendetta on a Presidential Administration that he deplored, it should open the doors for anyone who is alive connected with previous Administrations (Can you say Sandy Berger?).
JRH 4/22/09
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Prosecuting Bush: On Second Thought....
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
Some decisions lead to the discerning of the inner thoughts of the heart, and the separation of the bones and marrow. President Obama’s decision Tuesday to open the door to prosecute Bush administration officials who crafted legal opinions he believes led to torture is one of them. His judgment says much about the unsteady future of homeland security, whose voice is heeded in Washington, and the way the commander-in-chief views his own country’s most patriotic citizens.
The decision came after two days of head-fakes from administration officials who assured no charges would be filed against CIA interrogators or those who devised the legal policy. Rahm Emanuel told George Stephanopoulos on Sunday Obama believes “those who devised policy…should not be prosecuted, either.” On Monday, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs agreed, insisting, “The president is focused on looking forward.”
Yesterday, President Obama took one long glance backward. When questioned, in the presence of a Middle Eastern king, Obama propounded his new policy to the media: “with respect to those who formulated those legal decisions, I would say that is going to be more of a decision for the Attorney General within the parameters of various laws and I don’t want to prejudge that.”
AG Eric Holder tipped his hand last November, shortly after the election, when he blustered before the American Constitution Society: “Our government authorized the use of torture, approved of secret electronic surveillance against American citizens, secretly detained American citizens without due process of law, denied the writ of habeas corpus to hundreds of accused enemy combatants and authorized the use of procedures that violate both international law and the United States Constitution...We owe the American people a reckoning.”
The winds that will blow as a result of that reckoning may knock down another American skyscraper. The mere threat to prosecute lawyers for giving legal advice – a dubious and unprecedented action – will unleash the paralyzing fear into those tasked with providing American counterterrorism: nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. Who will craft a robust anti-terrorism interrogation program about a hatching terrorist plot, or trust his instincts to shoot the oncoming jihadists, if he fears prosecution in eight years for doing what is legal today?
We have seen this before, on the frontlines of the War on Terror and in its bureaucratic boardrooms. In Party of Defeat, David Horowitz and I recount the story of Navy SEAL Marc Luttrell, who with his fellow SEALS spared a group of “goat-herders” who spotted them on a covert mission in Afghanistan. The patriots considered shooting the spies but desisted, knowing the fire they would come under for “murdering” innocent civilians – including some teenagers. Within an hour of their hesitation, al-Qaeda terrorists killed 19 SEALs. Luttrell reflected he and his men were “tortured, shot, blown up, my best buddies all dead, and all because we were afraid of the liberals back home, afraid to do what was necessary to save our own lives.” (Emphasis added.) John Murtha and John Kerry’s hyperbolic rhetoric was paid for in American blood.
The Obama decision has impact for legal advisers, as well. On August 28, 2001, the FBI’s National Security Law Unit (NSLU) denied Minneapolis FBI agent Harry Samit the right to search the laptop of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker. Samit sent 70 e-mails requesting permission to search the computer, which he learned too late contained the plans for 9/11, pleading once he was “so desperate to get into Moussaoui's computer I'll take anything.” But the NSLU denied requests from Samit and his superior, Coleen Rowley, on grounds stricter than those required by the law. The caution about overstepping bureaucratic bounds engendered during the Clinton administration, the fear of professional retribution, caused them to build a fence around the law big enough to hide al-Qaeda’s sleeper cells.
This was the path to 9/11 – it is and the path back.
Obama’s move carries out the marching orders of his party's far-Left base. MoveOn.org, which boasted it “bought” the Democratic Party in 2004, had just sent out a blast e-mail soliciting petition signatures to revive prosecutions. The Sunday New York Times opined Obama had “an obligation to pursue what is clear evidence of a government policy sanctioning the torture and abuse of prisoners—in violation of international law and the Constitution.” Its most subservient U.S. senator, Russ Feingold, insisted “those who gave improper legal advice or those who authorized the program…should be held accountable.” Last week, MSNBC bully Keith Olbermann used his program to chide Obama to prosecute, ominously comparing Bush to Hitler (snore). He droned, to his three viewers:
obody even arrested the German Kaiser, let alone conducted war crimes trials then. And 19 years later, there was an indescribably more evil Germany and a more heart-rending Second World War…Sir, some day there will be another Republican president, or even a Democrat just as blind as Mr. Bush to ethics and this country's moral force. And he will look back to what you did about Mr. Bush. Or what you did not do…Prosecute, Mr. President.
Not to be outdone, absolutely unbiased Newsweek reporters Michael Isikoff and Evan Thomas compared the treatment of Abu Zubaydah to Winston Smith’s torture by Big Brother in 1984. (But sympathy for jihadists is a recurring theme of Isikoff’s.)
Organizations calling for prosecutions of Bush lawyers include such stalwarts as the Center for Constitutional Rights, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch. And no less a human rights advocate than Khaled Almaeena, the “editor of the Saudi Arabia-based Arab News daily, said Obama’s decision not to prosecute ‘sends the wrong message.’”
Others have targeted specific lawyers. Progressive Democrats of America is urging Americans to contact Congress to impeach Jay Bybee, currently on the infamous Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and a former Assistant Attorney General for the Bush administration. (PDA was founded by leftovers from the Dennis Kucinich presidential campaign. David Swanson, PSA’s Press and Media Team Coordinator, is a former ACORN employee.)
Some view the decision to open the door for prosecution as a chit to his leftist base, jilted by his relatively centrist war cabinet. However, the move betrays Obama’s own disposition. Unreported thus far, his decision comes virtually a year to the day Obama told the Philadelphia Daily News, “if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in cover-ups of those crimes with knowledge forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody [is] above the law.” Similarly, Joe Biden echoed last September, “We will not be stopped from pursuing any criminal offence that’s occurred…no one is above the law.”
The president and vice president may find opposition within their own administration. Obama’s national intelligence director, Admiral Dennis Blair, wrote in a memo last Thursday, “I like to think I would not have approved those methods in the past, but I do not fault those who made the decisions at that time, and I will absolutely defend those who carried out the interrogations within the orders they were given.” (Emphasis added.) Blair rightly noted those supposedly harsh methods – which were only employed in the most circumscribed circumstances – yielded “high value information.” To cite but the most obvious example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed revealed an intended 9/11-style attack on Los Angeles after being waterboarded.
Blair’s assistance may be needed, not merely for former Bush legal eagles, but for CIA interrogators still at Langley. The UN’s special rapporteur on torture, Manfred Nowak, said Obama’s decision to exempt those who conducted the investigations violates international law. Nowak told the AP, “The fact that you carried out an order doesn’t relieve you of your responsibility.” Obama has coupled a history of quickly abandoning those he recently promised to protect with the strength of a jellyfish in international affairs, and the interrogators may yet end up before a tribunal. Whatever occurs with prosecution, or non-prosecution, of former administration officials, future counterterrorists will now weigh the correct response against the likelihood of their own incarceration.
The real story behind this is what it confirms about President Obama. This decision, joined with his perpetual focus on the “faults” of the United States, his endless overseas apologies, his moral equivalence of America-hating racist ministers with pro-life Congressmen, all tell a similar story: Obama shares the worldview that invites aggression and punishes defense. Since the 1970s, the Left has excused our foes and obsessed over alleged American misdeeds, from John Kerry’s atrocity allegations in the 1970s to…John Kerry’s atrocity allegations in 2005; from My Lai to Abu Ghraib; from “the Evil Empire” to “the Axis of Evil”; from the Church Committee to the Leahy Truth Commission; and from winning the nuclear arms race to aggressively interrogating those who may be plotting the next 9/11.
Carterism is back.
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An Obama Partisan Witch Hunt?
John R. Houk
© April 22, 2009
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Prosecuting Bush: On Second Thought....
Ben Johnson is Managing Editor of FrontPage Magazine and co-author, with David Horowitz, of the book Party of Defeat. He is also the author of the book 57 Varieties of Radical Causes: Teresa Heinz Kerry's Charitable Giving.
Copyright © 2009 FrontPageMagazine.com
2 comments:
In his 1985 defamation case against Liberty Lobby magazine, E. Howard Hunt admitted under oath that the CIA forged documents in an attempt to frame JFK for the overthrow of Diem. How did Hunt know this? Because he was the one who forged the documents. Why did he do it? Because it was necessary that the CIA try to prove JFK's commitment to starting an all-out war in Vietnam. Diem was the obstacle. The truth was just the opposite. JFK was opposed to an all-out war and planned to withdraw military advisers by 1965. This is verified by James Douglass's well-researched "JFK And The Unspeakable." I recommend you read it, and I suggest you ignore CIA disinformation and lies spread by Operation Mockingbird assets.
Tim Fleming
author,"Murder Of An American Nazi"
www.eloquentbooks.com
Hey Tim thanks for the view. It is indeed documented that Howard Hunt (And I believe had some help) did indeed forge some memos to implicate JFK. However, my understanding was that the CIA was not so much after JFK as Nixon was trying to get the CIA to smear JFK to draw attention away from Watergate.
And I do mention that JFK has been rehabilitated by virtue of the lack of smoking gun evidence.
But you miss the point. There are a ton of classified (authentic) memos from several Administrations. President Barack Hussein Obama's release of the approval of extreme interrogation techniques (some call it torture) shows a partisan witch hunt. If BHO was really interested in justice he would also release the memos that demonstrate that extreme interrogation techniques protected America for the rest of President Bush's two terms in Office as well as deliver vital Intel on Islamic terrorists abroad.
Again the point is what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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